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黄健可以被原谅吗?

热度 11已有 3645 次阅读2012-1-2 13:21 |系统分类:杂谈| 鲜花, 律师, 守护者, 英雄 分享到微信

纽约大律师海明脚底抹油跑得快,摇身一变,俨然已成反桑大英雄,“道德底线”的守护者。新年祝福,鲜花感谢纷至沓来。

如果黄健见势不妙,出尔反尔,抛弃桑兰,反戈一击,我们是否也将奉上鲜花?
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回复 海明是阿Q 2012-1-3 10:06
14417335: There's no way for Haiming to find his conscience, if he had any before.

The shift was just another calculation of his stakes.
Totally agree.
回复 海明是阿Q 2012-1-3 10:05
mgzww999: 海明从来没有翻然悔悟过,指望他与桑兰玩真的也必将以失望和被骗而告终,这是我个人的教训,我曾经为此和LAO以及博主都争论过,事实证明是我错了。海明所谓揭露 ...
"想看到他反戈一击的唯一可能的是,让他面对最严厉的惩罚,是对他的揭露,而不是对他的“鼓励”。",太对了!
等合适的时候我要把你对海明的罪状总结发了,给更多人看到。
回复 14417335 2012-1-3 09:13
海明是阿Q: What caused him to shift his stance? His recognition of his wrongdoing or his instinct to save himself, and only himself?
There's no way for Haiming to find his conscience, if he had any before.

The shift was just another calculation of his stakes.
回复 mgzww999 2012-1-3 04:36
害人害己又海明: 其实我们的目标是一致的,只是条条大道通罗马,以其之矛攻其之盾而已。以桑兰之恶之毒远远高于海明,两恶相斗取其轻,当然我们要支持海明了。尽管他是害人害己, ...
桑兰可能是最毒的,但是现在海明是最有危害性的。桑兰再度也是一个人,海明可以利用许许多多个桑兰去危害社会。至于黄贱,我从来没把他当人看。不过我们这些判断不同都无关紧要,正象你说的,大家的目标是一致的。事到如今,被告的态度已经非常明确,谁也跑不掉了。包括路平和杨明,也是两个卑鄙下贱的东西。
回复 害人害己又海明 2012-1-3 02:19
mgzww999: 海明从来没有翻然悔悟过,指望他与桑兰玩真的也必将以失望和被骗而告终,这是我个人的教训,我曾经为此和LAO以及博主都争论过,事实证明是我错了。海明所谓揭露 ...
其实我们的目标是一致的,只是条条大道通罗马,以其之矛攻其之盾而已。以桑兰之恶之毒远远高于海明,两恶相斗取其轻,当然我们要支持海明了。尽管他是害人害己,也不一定能弄的过桑兰们,让他们两败俱伤也是一件喜闻乐见的事情,你就安心看戏吧,胖子还是有一些喜剧细胞的,桑兰维权/钱的嘻剧化和愚乐化也就在此。至于这些害人虫,刘老大是一个也不会放过的。
回复 曼哈顿 2012-1-3 01:03
黄健和海明都比桑兰坏100倍!他们无耻的利用了桑的贪婪,把桑毒放大了100倍出来毒害社会。都该下地狱!
回复 礁石 2012-1-3 01:01
I care less. Hee heeee.  
My view to this world is that human society is full of shit, including myself, individual wise. To maintain the harmony of the society, Sang Lan kind of behavior can not be tolerated. All the rest are secondary.
So to that end, I'm against Sang Lan not because she is a bad guy (as I'm a bad guy, too). I'm against her because she broke the social protocol.
回复 mgzww999 2012-1-3 00:48
害人害己又海明: 这只是看问题的角度不一样,其实实质是一样的。不管是维权也好,职业需要也好,这些都不会改变问题的实质 。就像风流和堕落其实是一回事情,只是发生在不 ...
海明从来没有翻然悔悟过,指望他与桑兰玩真的也必将以失望和被骗而告终,这是我个人的教训,我曾经为此和LAO以及博主都争论过,事实证明是我错了。海明所谓揭露桑兰也是一个假相,他没有提供任何有法律意义的、有用的、对桑兰不利的东西。恰恰相反,直到现在的最后法庭文件,他仍然是坚定的站在桑兰一边,反驳助理法官撤消滥诉条款。他所做的一切都是为了自己。先是为了自己出名,和桑兰结成敲诈勒索团伙,在没有任何证据和法律依据的情况下、一手导演了由桑兰和黄贱合演的诬告刘谢案。闹剧开始后他又开始身兼演员,起诉莫虎、起诉网友、率先加上性侵条款都是他一手所为,性侵刑事案件也至少有他的鼓动。

他是一个无德、无能、没有任何信誉和人格的东西。是一个不折不扣的混账,这种人如果继续当律师是法律的耻辱、也是莫虎个人职业生涯的耻辱!没有海明,或者说没有海明这样的律师,就不会有桑兰案,至少不会有今天这样的桑兰案。

海明从来没有说过一句真话,从来没有做过一件好事:

1. 他主动联系桑黄做诬告代理。
2. 诬告、威胁网友,诬告威胁、污辱被告律师(暗说莫虎是他儿子)。
3. 第一个提出性侵条款(有他自己的话为证明)。
4. 律师代理收费上欺骗法庭、欺骗客户(桑兰再邪恶也是客户)。
5. 在客户房租上隐瞒真相。
6. 面对惩罚时出卖客户,并在人格上攻击客户。
7. 声称要到北京告桑兰,结果是骗人。
8. 率先说客户诬告是为了移民,而帮助做假的就是他自己。
9. 看到风头不对之后,有案可查出来说要为桑兰恢复名誉。
10. 威胁要状告一位姓袁的律师。
11. 直到最后的答辩还站在桑兰一边、坚持诬陷被告。
12. 保险公司协议上明显撒慌。
13. 对起诉桑兰的法庭判决结果谎话连篇。

海明做的一切都是为了自己逃避惩罚,想看到他反戈一击的唯一可能的是,让他面对最严厉的惩罚,是对他的揭露,而不是对他的“鼓励”。
回复 海明是阿Q 2012-1-2 23:06
礁石: I meant to say otherwise. Practically, Hugh Mo didn't do anything to kick Sang Lan back to China at this stage. On the other hand, Hai Ming humiliated ...
So, you want to defend a lawyer that tricked his client into a groundless lawsuit and then betrayed and humiliated his client? Do two wrongs make a right?
回复 礁石 2012-1-2 22:58
海明是阿Q: A logic that only reminds me of 天鹅公主的报恩论。According to it, Liu/Xie benefited most from the groundless lawsuit, without which people would not  ...
I meant to say otherwise. Practically, Hugh Mo didn't do anything to kick Sang Lan back to China at this stage. On the other hand, Hai Ming humiliated her to the hell. To Sang Lan, her suit to Liu/Xie has been disastrous so far, all because of her misjudgment on Hai Ming.
回复 woodydy 2012-1-2 22:42
改过了就是好同志,支持海明倒戈。
回复 海明是阿Q 2012-1-2 22:10
礁石: People have all the reason to blame Hai Ming for betraying Sang Lan.  But for the sake of Liu/Xie, Hai Ming actually did most of the work for Liu/Xie' ...
A logic that only reminds me of 天鹅公主的报恩论。According to it, Liu/Xie benefited most from the groundless lawsuit, without which people would not recognize Liu/Xie's loving hearts. Therefore, Sang "actually did most of the work for Liu/Xie's benefits."
回复 礁石 2012-1-2 22:02
People have all the reason to blame Hai Ming for betraying Sang Lan.  But for the sake of Liu/Xie, Hai Ming actually did most of the work for Liu/Xie's benefits.
回复 海明是阿Q 2012-1-2 21:54
礁石: It's just a game. He tricked Sang Lan from the beginning. But don't judge him using morality or whatever. He did it for his own sake.
Why would doing it for his own interests without regard for others' become an excuse for all his wrongdoings? Can't we then use the same (faulty) logic to forgive all that Sang Lan has done?
回复 礁石 2012-1-2 21:50
海明是阿Q: What caused him to shift his stance? His recognition of his wrongdoing or his instinct to save himself, and only himself?
It's just a game. He tricked Sang Lan from the beginning. But don't judge him using morality or whatever. He did it for his own sake.
回复 海明是阿Q 2012-1-2 21:22
14417335: Even though we 奉上鲜花 to 海明 for his changing stance, whatever crime or nasty deeds he committed will still be judged.

Same goes to stupid and bas ...
What caused him to shift his stance? His recognition of his wrongdoing or his instinct to save himself, and only himself?
回复 14417335 2012-1-2 20:22
Even though we 奉上鲜花 to 海明 for his changing stance, whatever crime or nasty deeds he committed will still be judged.

Same goes to stupid and bastard 黄健, if he changed.
回复 luousa 2012-1-2 18:48
maomao1: 俺个人对海明的作为不以为然。桑案开始他是帮凶,表现无耻恶劣,现在为了逃脱责任转变态度(并没认错),只能说明这人人品差劲,职品差劲。但无论如何他的身份与 ...
再顶一下,这个也非常在理!
回复 luousa 2012-1-2 18:47
钢丝: 换作我,一个都不原谅!

我不觉得网友们真那么幼稚,会轻易原谅海明,他如果真地向善的方向迈进一步,当然不拒绝,他做过的错事,并不会一笔勾销,他必须为自己 ...
顶一下!完全同意。
回复 害人害己又海明 2012-1-2 18:39
海明是阿Q: 助纣为虐是"职业的需要"吗?出卖客户也是"职业的需要“吗?
这只是看问题的角度不一样,其实实质是一样的。不管是维权也好,职业需要也好,这些都不会改变问题的实质 。就像风流和堕落其实是一回事情,只是发生在不同的人身上,或者就是发生在同一个人的身上,由不同的人来评说而已,不必过不去,只是鼓励鼓励胖子去和桑兰们玩一把真的。
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